Flyzone Tiger Moth Micro EP (15”)–Flight Review

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  • #9141
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    z8rcdotcom
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    I love the idea of a stable little micro floater with minimum wing loading.  Let’s hope the Flyzone Tiger Moth Micro EP fits the bill.  The
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    #9147
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    mike9412
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    I’m looking for a slow-flying plane that I can use in my backyard. I’ve been using the Ember for now. Do you think this one might work?

    Also, can you tell if this Flyzone gearbox is improved from the Dr. 1 where you had problems?

    Thanks!

    #9150
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    z8rcdotcom
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    I think it is the same gearbox, it sounded rough on the maiden, although the video sound doesn’t pick up on it. I also had problems with the flyzone Albatros gearbox, as well as their micro Cub. Each died in short order. I’m going to silicon spray this one in the hope it helps.

    Video is up.

    #9165

    Tempting – I’d like a small, slow flyer for the cul-de-sac but don’t see this being $80 (+ would need an anylink I assume with my DX8) worth of plane.
    When this selling for only $89 more (no battery, but scads more detail, and ailerons), seems like the Tiger Moth should be a $60 package, max.

    http://www.motionrc.com/fms-800mm-p-51-mustang-v2-petie-2nd-pnp/

    $20 won’t make or break my month, just the principal.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by avatar Nurburgringer.
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    z8rcdotcom
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    Tempting – I’d like a small, slow flyer for the cul-de-sac but don’t see this being $80 (+ would need an anylink I assume with my DX8) worth of plane.

    Agreed, these little planes seem too expensive even at $80. I’ve been doing my share to apply review-based pressure on manufacturers via my Value category. Ultimately, the market will decide. I’ve noticed that HH has dropped prices from an average price of around $169 to a current average of perhaps $130 for the exact same planes. That seems to indicate that sales are lagging.

    I would go a little farther and say a fair price for the Flyzone (Hobbico) Tiger Moth could be around $29. When you open the box, there just isn’t that much inside–around 0.5 oz of molded foam and perhaps $1 to $2 of electronics, not including some assembly and finish labor.

    Is it a coincidence that the micro RC model shelf in any decent LHS contains a wide variety of brands (typically E-Flite, Parkzone, Ares, Blade, Hobbyzone, ForceRC, Gemini, etc) intended to create the illusion of competition when all are actually manufactured by a single company, or if the shelf is more extensive, two.

    And is it a also complete coincidence that those two (Horizon and Hobbico) are headquartered in Campaign, Illinois?

    #9177
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    mike9412
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    Double crap – the price is high and the gearbox quality is low. I guess I’m stuck with my Ember for now, and I’m getting bored :(

    I’m also going to try building another dollar tree foam plane. This plan looks interesting to me: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1046798

    #9367
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    mike9412
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    Hey, I read that the S.E.5a has a metal gear on some forums and thus flies quieter. It also should be more reliable. Then I saw this sale:

    http://www.motionrc.com/flyzone-350mm-micro-s-e-5a-wwi-rtf/

    Anybody have this plane?

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    4FunRC
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    OVERALL GRADE: F

    Yep it’s an F’er for sure.

    Nothing available, today or yesterday, to the public beats the HobbyZone Champ. Nothing!

    Learn how to fly the Champ and you need not worry about the Champs’ weak tail-end. You will do as I did, total it out numerous times and repair it. It still will fly, w/some adjustments. You will learn how to fly this plane w/out the worry of crashing it. Cost? Overall plenty.

    I’m tired of not finding a new plane in the market that has any substance for beginners or advanced flyers, beyond the hyperbole. What’s up with that? O I know, it’s marketing!

    I certainly suppose it appears the RC sellers’ market is crashing (at least for me and millions of others), since most sellers list Out of Stock, or w/no replacement parts, or Discontinued. Another nothing go where for a buyer. Hmm. I finally get it.

    All in all it’s not a happy outlook for new or seasoned member of this hobby.

    Why pay ~$100.00 and a whole BUNCH more for a plane that is junk? It crashes and becomes a money pit; if you can find and afford replacement parts.

    Dollar Store, et al. here I come? Yep, I’m going that direction. Get more of what you want. Don’t rely on sellers marketing and overpaying through-the-nose; zero replacement parts; w/little or no support,

    A thinking man can build a better than a market offered RC plane.

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    mike9412
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    OK, confession time. I bought the Flyzone SE5a. The TX-R version was only $50 at Tower, plus the purchase took me over $100 on my order, which got me $10 discount and free shipping. Yes, I know full well I’m rationalizing :)

    I am still going to build that Dollar Tree foam plane to add to my two others, but I just wanted a backyard plane immediately because the Ember is boring me. I’ve had the Champ before and loved it to pieces, literally. I agree with your and Z8′s praise for that plane. It got me going before I moved on to aileron trainers and then a Corsair.

    Anyway, I’ll comment back once the SE5a arrives and I’ve flown it. Same goes for the home built plane, but that may take a while with my kids. Let me know if you find another backyard plane or build your own.

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    z8rcdotcom
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    OK, confession time. I bought the Flyzone SE5a. The TX-R version was only $50 at Tower, plus the purchase took me over $100 on my order, which got me $10 discount and free shipping. Yes, I know full well I’m rationalizing :)

    I am still going to build that Dollar Tree foam plane to add to my two others, but I just wanted a backyard plane immediately because the Ember is boring me. I’ve had the Champ before and loved it to pieces, literally. I agree with your and Z8′s praise for that plane. It got me going before I moved on to aileron trainers and then a Corsair.

    Anyway, I’ll comment back once the SE5a arrives and I’ve flown it. Same goes for the home built plane, but that may take a while with my kids. Let me know if you find another backyard plane or build your own.

    If you could post a picture of the motor pinion I would be most interested in seeing if they really changed to a metal gear. The replacement motor on Tower’s spare parts page shows a metal pinion, but that has been the case for all Flyzone micros for quite some time.

    My Flyzone Tiger Moth gearbox actually gave out on the far end–the main shaft anchor nut came off the back and the shaft fell out the front of the plane.

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    mike9412
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    I definitely will check and post back. Jeez, that story about the shaft falling straight out just sucks. I’ll be on the lookout for my plane, thanks. In comparison, the Ember, while it is boring me now, never broke anything mechanically after too many flights to even estimate.

    #9457
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    mike9412
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    so I checked – it has the metal gear. See attached

    #9461
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    z8rcdotcom
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    Nice. Thanks for posting the photo! Hope the gearbox holds up for you.

    #9462
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    mike9412
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    I hope so, too! Your story still has me a little concerned.
    BTW, so I stopped looking at that Hellcat for my larger plane. The forums seemed to say that it was a great plane to fly, but not to land. It does nose-overs easily and the landing gear is weak. Plus, this looks like a better deal with flaps and lights and seems to do well in the forums so far: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=32431 Haven’t pulled the trigger yet, just thinking right now. I’ve never played with flaps other than in sims and thought they’d be fun.

    #9508
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    mike9412
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    So the gearbox is fine, but my assessment of the SE5a after 10 or so flights is that it is just worth the $49 special price I paid for the TX-R. It’s really cheaply made – the landing gear popped off after 3 flights and a few millimeters of wing came off easily in a minor crash. All repairable (although I may leave the landing gear off for my tall grass), but nothing like this happened for the Ember 2. I’ll put some tape here and there as prevention.

    Second thing is the handling. It’s stable at 1/3 throttle and more, but I’m used to the Ember 2 and Champ which were smooth to crawling speeds. This plane does a little oscillation thing – maybe related to a stalls or tail-heaviness (although I haven’t seen other proof of that). Either way, the lack of stability was surprising for such a simple little plane. I’m having fun with it, though, making it a bit of a game in my small backyard space.

    Still looking at the Spitfire for a big plane, but am wondering about tip stalls with those elliptical wings. There have been a few reports, but maybe I’m thinking about it wrong.

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